Where: | Market Weighton - finishing post is on a minor road 400 yards off the A614, signposted Warter |
When: | 3rd Thursday in March |
Time: | Race at 12, weigh-in 10- 11. Finish 2pm at the latest. |
Kiplingcotes Derby is reputedly the oldest flat-race in the UK, with records dating back to 1519. Entrants turn up on the day ; it’s open to horses “of all ages” and jockeys weighing under 10 stone must carry weights according to the rules. The course covers four miles, steep in places and often muddy. The winner has to be in it for the glory – the way the prize money is allocated means that the runner-up, whose prize is made up of the entry fees on the day, often gets a bigger cash prize than the winner who receives a fixed sum of £50. The day begins with a brief reading of the rules and a weigh-in at the finishing post; riders make their way slowly to the start of the race from this point and race back.
Helpful Hints
In 2025 it should be on Thursday 20th March.
Click here for the event Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Kiplingcotes-Derby-285624058951582/posts/
Thanks to John Slusar, you can view information on the history of the race and its winners via the following link: http://www.greyhoundderby.com/Kiplingcotes%20Derby%20homepage.html
In cases of extreme weather the race may be cancelled but this is rare – it happened in 2018 but a rider still completed the course at a sedate pace to keep the tradition alive, though the race itself couldn’t be held as the ground conditions were dangerous.
There were new rules for spectators from 2013 – please note the following was taken from the organisers webpage before it became unavailable.”The local authority have ruled that the winning post road can no longer be accessed or used for parking by spectators and will close nearby laybys to prevent pedestrians walking on the busy A614.There will still be some parking at Londesborough Wold farm but muddy conditions could create a problem”.
The journey to and from the course is around ten minutes each way and the horses assemble near the winning post by 12 o’clock before cantering out to the start at Kiplingcotes. The race itself must be run before 2pm.
The organisers advised on the event website that it isn’t possible for spectators to see both start and finish of the race because of the terrain and course length; they recommend watching from the finishing post near Londesborough Wold Farm from around 10am to be in plenty of time for the preamble. Don’t expect grandstands or other facilities ; do be prepared for inclement weather! 2012 was the first year that a bookie was present and the race took place in fog (at one point it was rumoured that it would have to be cancelled owing to poor visibility but fortunately it all went ahead).
For a more detailed account read” The Kiplingcotes Derby – England’s Oldest Horse Race” by Alison Ellerington.
The event’s own website is sadly no longer maintained owing to the death of the writer but I’ve kept a note from it of the contact number for Susan Hillaby, Clerk of the Course, +44(0) 1487 265 1207 (please drop me a line if this is now out of date and I shall remove it).
Hi guys I would love to ride in this race
Can professional jockeys ride in this race
Hi Eddie,
As far as I know there are no rules against it, but I have no direct link with the organsation of the race. We just went to watch last year! However, from the booklet I bought on the history of the race I know that Mr Guy Stephenson of Nunburnholme Wold Farm is one of the Trustees for the event – the address for his farming business is G.D Stephenson & Sons Ltd Londesborough Wold Farm, York, North Yorkshire, YO43 3LST so I expect if you drop him a line he’ll be able to help and advise. Good luck!
Averil
Hi, Does anyone know if my 15-year old friend can ride my pony (12.2hh) in the race? And if she can, how can we ‘add weight’ as she is only 8 1/2 stone?
kath
Hi Kath,
Try the contact on my reply to Eddie (just scroll down the article on the race page ’til you find it)as Mr Stephenson should be able to tell you. I haven’t an email addres or phone number for him but you might be able to trace him from the postal address.I suspect it’s horses only rather than ponies so that might be a problem, but the weight can be sorted out by carrying extra weights around the course (I’m pretty sure this has been frequently done before for lighter riders). Best of luck,
Averil
My sister and I finished the race on 14.2hh ponies in 1989. No one questioned it, but it was hard on the ponies (and we’d been training for months!) I was 16 and she was 13, the youngest rider at the time in the history of the race but we have been unable to find any other documentation to prove this fact.
Hi Kirsty,
I’m sure I heard somewhere that a new history is being written for next year so maybe there will be a mention in it?
Averil
Can anyone tell me what time the race is run? I see from the rules it has to be run before 2pm. I want to go & watch, but can’t find any information that tells me the start time. Thanks.
Hi Michele,
You must have missed the box with the time in on the Kiplingcotes Derby page – Race starts at 12, with the weigh-in from 10- 11. After the weigh-in the competitors walk to the start then race back to the Finishing Post. Best to be there by around 10 to see everything – go to the Finishing Post as everybody gathers there and you’ll be able to see the winner come in. Enjoy!
Best wishes,
Averil
where would the best place be to watch the race with an elderly person (88years) who has very limited walking ability.
Hi Gordon,
Head for the Finishing Post (finishing post is on a minor road 400 yards off the A614, signposted Warter) and if you get there nice & early you should be able to park fairly close to it on the wide grass verge which will mean a walk of maybe a couple of hundred yards or so along a tarmac road(I’m assuming you’ll travel by car). There aren’t any facilities at the venue so you might need a folding chair or a rest back at the car during the gap in proceedings between the competitors leaving for the start and racing back for the finish, as it’s quite a long wait. Hope you enjoy it!
Averil
Hi Gordon,
I’ve just found out there are new access rules for 2013 owing to the ground conditions. The shuttle bus will be your best option, I think :
The local authority have ruled that the winning post road can no longer be accessed or used for parking by spectators and will close nearby laybys to prevent pedestrians walking on the busy A614.
There will still be some parking at Londesborough Wold farm but muddy conditions could create a problem.
To overcome this the newly formed Market Weighton Town Team have stepped in to provide a free Shuttle Bus Service between the town centre and the racecourse between 10am and 3pm . The bus will collect and drop off from the bus stops outside The Griffin Inn and outside Asda.
The journey to and from the course is around ten minutes each way and the horses assemble near the winning post by 12 o’clock before cantering out to the start at Kiplingcotes. The race itself must be run before 2pm.
Hope this gets to you soon enough to be helpful!
Averil
good luck to caz tomorrow who will be giving it a blast !
wheres the best place to watch and what time shall i get there for?
Go to the Finishing Post (on a minor road 400 yards off the A614, signposted Warter)by about 10am if you want to see the weigh-in and all the preamble.You’ll then have a bit of a wait until the winner comes in but it’s worth it to see the whole thing. Enjoy!
Averil
Hi, Are there any age limitations on this race for the jockey? Thanks
Hi Iona,
As far as I know there are no limitations for the age of either rider or horse. However it would be wise to check with the organisers just in case anything has changed – Calendar Customs has no connection with the organisation of any of the featured events on the website. Visit this page on the event website, scroll to the bottom of the page and you’ll find the contact phone number for the Clerk of the Course :
http://www.wicstun.com/racemap.html
Best of luck!
Averil
Thanks for the reply Averil! Have contacted them. Also on average do you know how many horses usually race? Thanks
No problem! In recent years there have been around a dozen competitors. If you follow the link to the event’s own webpages http://www.wicstun.com/derby.html and select the Race Reports you’ll get a detailed account of each year’s race (maybe worth a read to get a few tips!)
Hi, for the weighing in, does anyone know whether it is with or without the saddle and whether weights can be used to increase the weight of the jockey thanks
Hi Iona,
I’m pretty sure the weigh-in doesn’t include the saddle ( I’ve just checked one of my photos and the winner when we went is on the scales without his) and I know that weights can be used to increase the weight (in fact I think it’s obligatory if the jockey is under 10 stone)
Averil
Hi, just wondered if there was any disabled parking near finish.
Hi Kathy,
Contact the organisers at to get up-to-date info on this – visit this page: http://www.wicstun.com/racemap.html and scroll down to the bottom for the contact details of the Clerk to the Course. I expect the ground conditions might be a problem this year but they’ll keep you right!
Best wishes,
Averil
Hi. I am planning to come to the derby with my 16 month old. Will the shuttle buses be suitable for prams please? Or is there anywhere nearby we could park and then walk with the pram, happy to do a bit of a walk as long as safe.
Thanks
Rachel
Hi Rachel,
Your’e through to Calendar Customs which has no connection with the organisation of The Derby any of the other featured events on the website. Visit this page on the even’s own website, scroll to the bottom of the page and you’ll find the contact phone number for the Clerk of the Course :
http://www.wicstun.com/racemap.html
They’l be able to give you all the up-to-date information you’ll need – given the weather we’ve had this winter there might be some issues with ground conditions which they’ll be able to advise you about as they’re on the spot.
Hope you have a great time!
Averil
My sister Josephine Lesley Brown won the Kipplingcoates 444th. I think in 1964? I also believe that she was then the youngest ever winner? Could you please verify these statements and tell me where I could get a newspaper cutting of her after winning that event. I think it was the Hull Daily Mail? I know such an article/ cutting exists somewhere. I am writing a book of my pre-New Zealand life 1937-1965.
Tim Brown
Professor Emeritus
Massey University, New Zealand.
Hi Tim,
Thanks for your message. I’ve checked in two sources and both list your sisters win as 1963 riding Vulbalin. The sources are “England’s Oldest Race” produced by the Trustees which I bought at the race a couple of years ago and “The Kiplingcotes Derby ” by Alison Ellerington, 1990, Highgate Publications which I bought secondhand through Amazon as it’s out of print. Both are slim volumes with a wealth of information on the race (the first cites trhe second as a source so there is some overlap.
Here ar calendarcustoms we have no connection with the organisation of the Kiplingcotes Derby, so to answer your other queries I think you’ll need to make contact with the Trustees.Visit http://www.wicstun.com/racemap.html and scroll down to the bottom of the page where you’ll find the contact details for the Clerk of the Course, Susan Hillaby. There’s also lots of historical information on the event on the website.
Hope that helps!
Best Wishes,
Averil
Hello,
I found this reference in a roundabout way, a mention on an Anlaby website. You , I’m sure will not recall me but I lived opposite your home in the fifties on Beverley Road Anlaby, no 355. My name is Nicholas Uebel. In those faroff days of the fifties I recall you had a keen interest in Model Aircraft and spent hours entertaining local children (myself included) flying petrol driven model attached to a long wire which went around you in circles. I just thought it might jog a memory for your book on pre New Zealand life. Any other reminiscences I might have I would gladly share. Best wishes, Nick Uebel
Can you take place if you weigh more than 10 stone?
Hi Rachel,
Yes, in fact riders under 10 stone have to make up to that amount using weights. Calendar Customs has no connection with the organisation of any of the race or the other featured events on the website- visit this page on the event’s own website, scroll to the bottom of the page and you’ll find the contact phone number for the Clerk of the Course. They’ll be able to fill you in with all the up-to-date rules :
http://www.wicstun.com/racemap.html
Best wishes,
Averil
Hi do all riders start at the same time from the start? Thanks
Hi Sam,
Yes, I think they do (though as a spectator rather than a rider I was watching from the finishing post end rather than the start, and you can’t see both ends of the course!). Visit http://www.wicstun.com/racemap.html and scroll down to the bottom of the page where you’ll find the contact details for the Clerk of the Course, Susan Hillaby then you can get current up-to-date info straight from the organisers.Enjoy!
Averil
Is the shuttle bus running from Market Weighton this year?
Hi Jim,
Yes, I’m sure it is because earlier in the year the folks organising it got in touch and they’re hoping it will be well used this year. Here at calendarcustoms we’re not connected with the running of the race, but if you contact Mel Sparke, the Assistant Manager (Human Resources, Marketing & Events) at Langlands Garden Centre,you’ll be able to get the up-to-date times etc
Langlands Garden Centre
Tel: 01430 873426 Ext 121
Email:mel.sparke@llgc.biz
Hope you enjoy the day!
Averil
Thanks Averil. Have bought some ticketsfor the Langlands bus but don’t know where it finishes up. Details say Stephensons Stack Yard but I don’t know where that is.
Weather forecast looking ok.
Cheers, Jim
Thanks, Jim,
I think that’s just at the farm next to the course -just follow the crowd to the Winning Post! Fingers crossed for a fine day.
Averil
Hi. Just been in touch with langlands and the shuttle bus is going from there this year. £2.50 a ticket and to be there 9:45 am at the latest.
Thanks Trisha,
That’s really helpful – hope it gets well used this year as it seems like a really good idea and it’s not too expensive either. Have a good time!
Averil
Really enjoyed kiplingcotes! Do you know if there is anything similar anywhere else? Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it – it’s a good day out, isn’t it? It’s pretty much a one-off as far as I know – can’t think of anything else quite like it. However if you like horsy events you might enjoy some of the Common Riding events in the Scottish Borders area as they’re quite a spectacle – you can find several in the monthly listings for June & July in places like Hawick and Melrose and lots of the other towns in that area, and some of them have races organised as part of the event. And Appleby or Stow horse fairs (in June & May/October respectively) are interesting to visit – you can see the travellers’ horses put through their paces. Or if you enjoy unusual races maybe the Gawthorpe Coal Carrying or Hedley Barrel Race which are both coming up on Easter Weekend; if you’re further south try Maldon Mud race or Tetbury Woolsack race which are a little later in the season. I’m sure you’ll find plenty to enjoy if you have a browse through the site – there’s something weird and wonderful on somewhere pretty much all year!
Best Wishes,
Averil
Any idea of the fastest finishing time?
It usually takes around 10 minutes but I haven’t got the figures – I know that the slowest one was in 1947 in snow drifts and it took about an hour and a half! I expect the organisers will have full records including times, but their site seems to be broken at the moment – might be worth trying later at http://www.wicstun.com/derby.html
I am 16 years old and was hoping that i wud be able to race in kiplingcotes and have been practicing for over a year on the same sort of turf less that a mile away. As i am still in school i hav found that i cannot race because its on a thursday. I am absolutely gutted and hope next year that it will be on a weekend. 😡
That’s really disappointing for you Charlotte – can’t you skive off for a day? (sorry, that’s probably not the right thing to suggest as you might get into trouble!) Unfortunately as far as I know it’s always on Thursdays 🙁
Well iv asked my parents but they r incredibly strict. Its only bugged me so much because this race is supposed to be for everyone but clearly not if its on a week day that rules put most people under the age of around 18… I have been waiting for this race for months 😔 xxx such a shame
Never mind, it’s been going for hundreds of years though, so when you’re 18 you’ll be able to do it then 🙂
Hi
The website link has been broken for ages. Do you know who to contact to try and sort the problem?
Thanks
Patrick
Hi Patrick,
Yes, I’ve been hoping they’ll get it fixed, which is why I left the link on the calendarcustoms page. Because all the details used to be readily available on their website, I didn’t make any note of the contact phone numbers so all I can suggest is the local garden centre who were organising the shuttle bus a year or 2 ago: Langlands Garden Centre 01430 873426 Ext 121 & ask for Mel. Even if they’re no longer connected they will hopefully be able to put you in touch and perhaps let the organisers know that the site is no longer working (it’s possible they may be unaware of this).
Sorry I can’t be more help & best of luck,
Averil
Do you know if there is a shuttle bus running from market weighton ? I enquired at Langlands a few weeks ago and they said they weren’t doing it this year.
As far as I know there isn’t one at all this year, sadly. And as I expect you know, the event website has mysteriously vanished….which is a pity as it had lots of useful information on it 🙁
Hi. Hoping to have a go this year. Can anyone tell me where I would park my waggon? Near the start or near the finish? Thanks
Hi Liz,
I think most people park up near the finish and hack to the start from there.
Averil
Thank you Averil
If you are interested you can acces some of the pages through this historical website archive website here http://archive.is/www.wicstun.com
I took part in this race yesterday (16/03/2017) and thought I’d put a few details here for anyone (like me) who is struggling to find information about entering.
I couldn’t quite believe that would be as easy as turning up with your money and entering on the day, but it was. – I thought there would be some rules like wearing an up to date body protector, etc, but there didn’t seem to be. I don’t think you are required to wear a BP, headcams are allowed, I didn’t have to produce any documents. Parking for competitors is on the grass verges near the winning post – we got there for 9 am and there was no-one about, but at least we got a good parking spot! The road is hilly, verges wide and not muddy yesterday. People started to turn up closer to 10 am. You need to go and enter and get weighed in, fill in a disclaimer and then your time is your own until about 11.15 when you have to assemble on horseback for the rules to be read. Then it was a walk to the start – someone warned me to turn on my headcam before we got there because it’s a quick start – and off we went. The verges were fine for galloping, the road crossings a bit hairy and it was very muddy and churned up by tractors near the woods, but I slowed down here and picked my way through, as others did (not sure about the leaders because I’d lost them by this point!). After the race you only need to get weighed in again if you finish in the first 3. There’s the presentation after a little while for the winner and runner-up and all competitors are given a rosette. Calendar is there filming and lots of people taking photos.
That’s the practical stuff – as far as enjoyment goes, it’s a fantastic day. Lots of supporters – spectators come up and peer in your box at your horse, chat to you and wish you good luck. I had some invaluable and friendly advice from Chris Pitt and others, fellow competitors, even the serious ones, were all friendly and helpful and spectators along the route clap and shout out well done or good luck as you gallop past, which really lifts your spirits. Amazing day and I would love to thank the organisers and supporters for making it such a great event.
Many thanks for this Liz – it’s be very useful for future competitors to have that information. We visited as spectators so didn’t see it all from that perspective. It’s a really good day out for participants and audience!
Averil
Travelled up from Wiltshire this year, the day before, to watch what should have been the 500th running of the race. Switched the radio on, on Thursday morning, and the first item I heard on R4’s “Farming Today” was about the race’s cancellation. Would it be possible for news of any future cancellations to be communicated ASAP. For us Kiplingcotes aficionados who travel from from afar it would save us a long journey … and money in travel expenses?
Dear Anthony,
That must have been very disappointing! In the past the event used to have a really good website of its own but sadly that disappeared a couple of years ago and there isn’t a Facebook page, which we’ve found useful on our travels for getting last minute updates for other events. To be fair, I think it was very much a reluctant last minute decision to cancel the race so it might not have saved your long journey up country even if the organisers had a Facebook page to announce the decision when it was made, but I agree it would be helpful if there was some way in place of getting that information out there.
Hope you manage to get there for the next one and that the conditions on the ground are better!
Best wishes,
Averil
Many thanks for your prompt and considered reply. Sorry, but I seem to have inadvertently submitted the same post twice, so please ignore the second submission, or if possible could you delete it? I will certainly be quite attentive to developments prior to next years’ race, which is quite late in the month. As a medical person, one thing that I noticed at the 2002 and 2017 events was the absence of any “close” medical support; i.e. an ambulance tailing the race, as at a “mainstream” racecourse. I could make some tentative enquiries about provision of a 4 wheel drive cross country ambulance by one of my former employers if you like? I’m afraid I can’t promise anything however. Also, reading an earlier post, I saw the name “Chris Pitt”. Would this be the author of “A Long Time Gone”, the directory of Britain’s defunct racecourses (… with the notable omission of Blaydon)? If so, and he’s attending the 2019 race, I’ll bring my copy up with me for signing.
Hi Anthony,
(I’m replying on my husband’s laptop as we’re away on a trip so apologies for the confusion if I appear as John!) The duplicate post has been deleted. We don’t have any connection with the organisation of the race and now that the event website has vanished I don’t think I have any current contacts for the organisers, sorry. And I’m afraid I don’t know either if it’s the right Chris Pitt, though it seems likely…. It’s a very enjoyable day out, so I hope you manage to get there next time (and I think they’re actually billing 2019 as the 500th from what I’ve seen in the Press). If I find any direct contacts for the organisers I’ll pass them on – having a cross country ambulance sounds like a highly sensible suggestion!
Best wishes,
AVeril
I was hoping to visit for the 2019 Derby and was wondering if advice could be offered for Car Parking on the day ?
John
Hi John, As you’re probably aware there is no longer a working website linked to the event organisation, which makes finding up-to-date information tricky. Some years parking is banned on the roadside near the Winning Post and other years it isn’t – I’d advise going very early and trying to get as near Londesborough Wold Farm as you can. In some years parking is available at the farm itself and if not you’ll be able to see on the ground how close you can get without getting into trouble! Sorry I can’t be more help than that – I don’t want to give you out-of-date information that would perhaps be more harm than use. It’s a great day out – hope you have a good time!
Averil
Hello again John – just realised that you may not know where the farm is – postcode is YO43 3LS and it’s just west of the Kiplingcotes Racecourse route and the winning post, off the north side of the A614.
Best wishes,
Averil
is there a book on the 500th race as I was at the starting post this time & not the finish post for a change if there is it is a book that I will buy.
Not sure about that George- I know a new history was on sale in 2019 at the race, but though I put out a few feelers at the time I haven’t managed to track one down yet and don’t even know who wrote it. The best place to try will be the event Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/Kiplingcotes-Derby-285624058951582/ so might be worth dropping them a line – I’ll do the same myself and see if copies are available by post!
Best wishes,
Averil
Please could you tell me if there will be parking at Londesborough Wold Farm this year and what would be the best time to arrive Thanks
Hi Peter,
calendarcustoms isn’t connected to the organisation of the race- go to https://www.facebook.com/Kiplingcotes-Derby-285624058951582/ for all the up-to-date info for this year and to make inquiries- the phone number on the Facebook page is 01430 872054 or you can send a message (they no longer have a website). We arrived at around 10 o’clock when we visited a few years ago, in time to see the weigh-in and the start, but they’ll be able to advise. Hope you enjoy it!
Averil
My father (Harry Gee) was invited one year to start the race. After starting the race he then got into a car, whereby the driver put his foot down and managed to get to the finishing post before the horses. This was the first time it had ever been done. Kenneth Gee
He did well to get to both start and finish of the race- I’ve been told it’s impossible!
I forgot to mention it, but the year would have been around 1979-1981.